List your $ig for $ale!

[Mailman]

adultmix, your taking it all the wrong way.. the butcher is a tool and ripped people off.. people see you post there so they just wonder if you guys are partners, buddies.. did he pay you for the work you did etc.. thats all.

[ChrisExtreme]

nice conclusion, wise. But, okay, you post a lot, why dont you send me your sig sell info to list?

1. I don't want to do business with someone who can't answer a simple question

2. I'm selling my sig for charity not for profit

[adultmix]

adultmix, your taking it all the wrong way.. the butcher is a tool and ripped people off.. people see you post there so they just wonder if you guys are partners, buddies.. did he pay you for the work you did etc.. thats all.

thats long awaited, thanks for coming in. ( i can't help my reacting to Chris, i'm not used to getting into shit at the door ). Well, if i post threads somewhere why would it mean i'm an affiliate in some way? As far as i recall US is one piece of free country and I dont need to prove shit, make them prove it.

Okay, if i leave that top notch discussion with this short explanation, would it be eough, i guess?

I do designs, its my primary business. I do get paid for that. Clear? I do not deal with those who doesnt pay. I accept 1/2 payment upfront.
So i guess it'd fucking clear i got paid for design.

If you guys think i need to tell you more... well... dont let me say things i want to

[adultmix]

1. I don't want to do business with someone who can't answer a simple question

2. I'm selling my sig for charity not for profit

Chris, i really think you're great guy, especially charity things make you look that way. May be this is another intention of yours to protect people who have been badly taken care of, and i didn't notice that. But read me right, you dont need to stick shit in my thread, please. I can't say i'm doing my Sig Market for charity, it's business. But it's mutually profitable. People get exposed, they sell sigs and i would probably sell banner there. Simple thing.

[Mailman]

Well just because you post there it does not mena your dealing with him.. but you post there a lot and hes a noted thief as we have sene in this thread so people will just think you deal with him or you jut might not have knowen he was a thief.

either way man we are a good group here. people have just been fucked by him and did not want that shit here thats all!

[adultmix]

Well, as u noticed i dont have many posts here or anywhere else, i didnt feel the need for that untill now. SponsorChat people speak nice to me, I'm sorry I'm not FBI to dig owner's personalities. I actually do not know anything about other board owners. So what, guilty?

Please, see sig. Adultmix is online since 2001 and i have some names using it for their needs. Sig Market is the first try of mine to make something 'webmaster like' except deisgn, so i figured out i should post it.

[Mailman]

Its cool man.. people just get the wrong impression when you go on attack mode like you got something to hie thats all!

[adultmix]

it was a defence. ppl hit me real hard for their reasons thinking i'm the one to be guilty. i only saw this behavior (fuck me for being ukrainian) at crutop russian board, i thought it's not happeing here.

[Mailman]

It dont but you have to understand people get pissed when they think they are dealing with a scammer or a friend of the scammer etc... it happens a lot.. Even if youknow the scammer you need to distance yourself from them or else everyone thinks you a scammer you know what I mean.

[adultmix]

Thanks everyone for participating. I don't want any harsh things and such. I'm exposing my new business here.

I hope to see your offers for SigMarket sent my way. And surely, feel free to discuss Adultmix.biz pricing with me, if you want to make design orders.

[Reppy]

Not only do people get screwed out of the money and prizes they are owed from SponsorChat but the dude who owns it (TheButcher) has been caught winning his own contests using fake nics so he doesn't have to pay out the prizes.

That's just fucked.

Just another reason why Medium Pimpin rocks.

[Reppy]

If you guys think i need to tell you more... well... dont let me say things i want to

I'd love to hear those things. Fuck staying on topic Vent man!

[jaytown]

What is your connection to TheButcher?

Damn dude, your about an aggravating motherfucker.

[djroof]

welcome man!

[xclusive]

Damn dude, your about an aggravating motherfucker.

What's your beef? Are you the butcher or a friend of his? Do you support scammers? Chris is a great stand up guy and I love that he speaks his mind. I would do biz with him any day of the week.

[adultmix]

Hi, its all here http://www.adultmix.biz/sigmarket/faq.html

[AbulletAway]

[pf69.com]

so if you don't mind my dealing with some one on my own, pls, step aside. I reserve a right not to respond your silly post. Fuck, i just broke the rule, lol

Remember,

all I wanted to know is if he paid you....I never asked you how much....but by your answers all I can think is that you're TheButcher's best friend....

[adultmix]

dear pf69, i'm tired of your insistance. see FAQ. period. My business is not about farting around about someone's being 'taken care of' not nicely. It's a FREE to post SigMarket. You said some bad things to a person I never had bad experience with. Prove it! You want to associate me with someone you hate to write off all your problems in a second? You make silly conclusions about my personality never trying to open your eyes and go outta your dean. Keep up that way.

I'm sorry, mailman, mate, you're nice guy but i can only see some negative influence from the crowd here.

[Mailman]

dear pf69, i'm tired of your insistance. see FAQ. period. My business is not about farting around about someone's being 'taken care of' not nicely. It's a FREE to post SigMarket. You said some bad things to a person I never had bad experience with. Prove it! You want to associate me with someone you hate to write off all your problems in a second? You make silly conclusions about my personality never trying to open your eyes and go outta your dean. Keep up that way.

I'm sorry, mailman, mate, you're nice guy but i can only see some negative influence from the crowd here.

Damn dude you took this thread the wrong way. No one attacked you were just asked a simple question and you went nuts about nothing.

[adultmix]

I thought you might have said a positive word about me before it turned into sticking my ass into someone's opened wound. Thanks.

[Xmaster]

I thought you might have said a positive word about me before it turned into sticking my ass into someone's opened wound. Thanks.

I suggest you try these.

[pf69.com]

dear pf69, i'm tired of your insistance. see FAQ. period. My business is not about farting around about someone's being 'taken care of' not nicely. It's a FREE to post SigMarket. You said some bad things to a person I never had bad experience with. Prove it! You want to associate me with someone you hate to write off all your problems in a second? You make silly conclusions about my personality never trying to open your eyes and go outta your dean. Keep up that way.

I'm sorry, mailman, mate, you're nice guy but i can only see some negative influence from the crowd here.

as for the contest I cant post the URL as he probably has deleted them all from his board....
but I can post the screenshots from paypal....but then you can say that those paypal accounts are not from him or something like that....

if you want I can show my old ICQ logs...with all my chats with him....

[pf69.com]

and here goes the ICQ logs....

Date and Time: 03/03/2005 11:45 PM
You have sent a message to TheButcher
are you on?
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 08:17 AM
You have received a message from TheButcher
here now whats up
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:25 AM
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just trying to hit you up about the payments from SC...
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:26 AM
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I got all the money back from payapal, my account is still blocked who cares, going to pay everyone mb,epass, check whateevr with the old payments
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:27 AM
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ok...and when will you do that?
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:27 AM
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told everyone to send in their emails by the 10th, should have epass and mb both setup by then,
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:28 AM
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what is your email? so that can send my epassport for you
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:29 AM
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webmaster@sponsorchat.com
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:30 AM
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what infor do I have to send you on the email?
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:32 AM
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board username and the epass or mb account
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:33 AM
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post count? and contests?
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:33 AM
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nope
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:33 AM
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ok!
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:35 AM
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email sent!
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:35 AM
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thanks, here do me a favor when you go to

http://www.sponsorchat.com do you see a top and bottom banner?

I don't
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:36 AM
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nothing on the index page...
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:37 AM
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thank you, talking to a designer who redid it and he says I'm going blind, I don't see the banners he does
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:38 AM
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not on FF or on IE....there is nothing there...
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:38 AM
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thanks
Date and Time: 03/04/2005 11:38 AM
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you are welcome
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:53 PM
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http://www.sponsorchat.com/showthread.php?t=3788 this is a nice and easy one
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:54 PM
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when will the payments be sent?
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:54 PM
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said this I think 50 times my friend, starting 11th
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:55 PM
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the post I made on SC was delete...
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:55 PM
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so I never saw your replies...
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:55 PM
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no you started 2 threads I merged them, looks ridiculous dude multiple ythreads about the same thing
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:56 PM
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I have made one thread and then I saw that my post count had gone daown 1 post so I think it was deleted....
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:56 PM
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nope
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:58 PM
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can you point me where my thread is? I cant find it anywhere
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:58 PM
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you moved it...
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:58 PM
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that is why i couldnt find it...
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 03:59 PM
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kk come try win the content dude
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 04:03 PM
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I am there already!
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 04:03 PM
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so am I nice giveaway going to support the guy post there
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:54 PM
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what is going on?
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:55 PM
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pf69.com, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:55 PM
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did you cut off my memebership?
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:55 PM
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wtf are you doing, non-stop posting like an idiot, thats rude, don't you understand manners?
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:56 PM
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you could have hit me up on ICQ...it would be easier...
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:57 PM
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every contest you piss off members with your bullshit non-stop posting, get lost
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:57 PM
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so that is it?
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:58 PM
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no I put you on ignore, wtf
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 05:58 PM
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I win and you ban me?
Date and Time: 03/06/2005 06:00 PM
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that makes me wonder if I will ever see that money you owe me......
Date and Time: 03/14/2005 04:55 PM
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whats up
Date and Time: 03/14/2005 04:56 PM
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I have not yet received the epassport
Date and Time: 03/14/2005 04:57 PM
You have sent a message to TheButcher
you said you were going to send them on the 11th...
Date and Time: 03/14/2005 04:57 PM
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yopu going to be a team player stop the crap like recently on there?
Date and Time: 03/14/2005 04:58 PM
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I am not posting much lately...I am working too much and my class on college have started once again
Date and Time: 03/14/2005 04:59 PM
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okay just don't spam the shit, I'll take care of you in the next few days
Date and Time: 03/14/2005 05:00 PM
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ok...as I said I am not posting much lately
Date and Time: 03/22/2005 02:53 AM
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would you hit me up and tell me when will I get payed?
Date and Time: 03/22/2005 09:48 AM
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I'll look at it today
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:46 AM
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why didnt you pay me on epassporte yet?
do you think I will give up on this quest?
maybe 100 bucks isnt much for you but for me it is....I hate not getting what I have worked for....
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:53 AM
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I thought you were paid on paypal. let me ask.
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:54 AM
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I got an echeck that was cancelled!
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:54 AM
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when?
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:56 AM
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I got the payment on march 24th
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:56 AM
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and its status has changed to cancelled yesterday
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:57 AM
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I didn't ask anything to be cancelled let me email my guy see what the deal is.
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:58 AM
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NFV LTD -> $95.00
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 11:58 AM
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I emailed them, hold on, let me see whats the deal
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 01:00 PM
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I'm waiting for my guy to reply to my email, I see he's cancelled like 6 or so payments, no idea wtf he's doing that for.
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 01:08 PM
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I have to go now..drop me a message in here if I am not online, ok?
Date and Time: 03/31/2005 12:13 AM
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yeh the idiots in india, I want to know wtf he's doing with my accounts, I'll get back to you

[pf69.com]

continuing the ICQ logs...

Date and Time: 04/06/2005 04:57 PM
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where is my money dude?
I really need it! I have to pay my baby's kindergarten...and have no fucking money right now...(I was supposed to pay it yesterday...)
Date and Time: 04/06/2005 05:57 PM
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you'll have it tomorrow dude
Date and Time: 04/07/2005 11:15 PM
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looks like you forgot about me...
Date and Time: 04/07/2005 11:29 PM
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no been very busy with the new sites, I'll look at yours tomorrow
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:41 AM
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you get your cash?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:41 AM
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no...when was it sent?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:42 AM
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just asking, okay whats the email addy you want it to and the amount, I'll do it
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:43 AM
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on epassporte or paypal?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:43 AM
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paypal
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:43 AM
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*******@terra.com.br
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:43 AM
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ARS is buyibng 20 sigs at $40 each if you want to sell it, post here

http://www.sponsorchat.com/showthread.php?t=4592
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:44 AM
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whats the amount again
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:44 AM
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about 100 bucks
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:45 AM
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kk I'll do it today,
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:45 AM
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thx!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:45 AM
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see the $40 sig thread?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:45 AM
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cheking it now!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:50 AM
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is pf69.com still banned from SC?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:52 AM
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let me reset the password, to test 1 min its a better username
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:52 AM
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certainly much better than cheater....
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:54 AM
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password is test you can change it bro
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:55 AM
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working!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:55 AM
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thx dude!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:57 AM
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anytime, lets start fresh no misunderstandings, square aay the debt and have some fun
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:57 AM
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aay = away
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:58 AM
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I have no problems at all doing this!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:59 AM
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what are the sig rules?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 01:00 PM
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try keep it simple ,

like aa 468x60 or a few 120x60, don;t go crazy with a banner farm
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 01:00 PM
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can I have a 468x60 + 2 text links?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 01:01 PM
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yeh fine
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 01:01 PM
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ok! that is what I will have!
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:51 PM
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have you forgoten my paypal?
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:52 PM
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no I funded it, waiting for the funds to show up so I don't write an echeck bro, faster that way
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:52 PM
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ok...
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:53 PM
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the place has picked up a bit, how do you like it
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:54 PM
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its great!
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:54 PM
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some nice posts there reading them now
Date and Time: 04/21/2005 02:56 AM
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looks like I will never see that money....
Date and Time: 04/21/2005 10:06 AM
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hey bro didn't I say I'm funding the thing, I'm looking everyday at it, 1 or 2 more days they'll release the hold on the check patient please
Date and Time: 04/24/2005 10:05 PM
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Listen to I told you I have out sourcing people do payments, they fuck up, but I set up my own accounts and you'll have your money tomoprrow, and I don't want any of your bullshit posts on my board ever again. stop the crap.

[uno]

Is this guy Fillipino or eastern european?

[uno]

Ah, ukranian.

[MP]

continuing the ICQ logs...

Date and Time: 04/06/2005 04:57 PM
You have sent a message to TheButcher
where is my money dude?
I really need it! I have to pay my baby's kindergarten...and have no fucking money right now...(I was supposed to pay it yesterday...)
Date and Time: 04/06/2005 05:57 PM
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you'll have it tomorrow dude
Date and Time: 04/07/2005 11:15 PM
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looks like you forgot about me...
Date and Time: 04/07/2005 11:29 PM
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no been very busy with the new sites, I'll look at yours tomorrow
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:41 AM
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you get your cash?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:41 AM
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no...when was it sent?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:42 AM
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just asking, okay whats the email addy you want it to and the amount, I'll do it
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:43 AM
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on epassporte or paypal?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:43 AM
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paypal
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:43 AM
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*******@terra.com.br
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:43 AM
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ARS is buyibng 20 sigs at $40 each if you want to sell it, post here

http://www.sponsorchat.com/showthread.php?t=4592
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:44 AM
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whats the amount again
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:44 AM
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about 100 bucks
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:45 AM
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kk I'll do it today,
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:45 AM
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thx!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:45 AM
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see the $40 sig thread?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:45 AM
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cheking it now!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:50 AM
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is pf69.com still banned from SC?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:52 AM
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let me reset the password, to test 1 min its a better username
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:52 AM
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certainly much better than cheater....
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:54 AM
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password is test you can change it bro
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:55 AM
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working!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:55 AM
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thx dude!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:57 AM
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anytime, lets start fresh no misunderstandings, square aay the debt and have some fun
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:57 AM
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aay = away
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:58 AM
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I have no problems at all doing this!
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 12:59 AM
You have sent a message to TheButcher
what are the sig rules?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 01:00 PM
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try keep it simple ,

like aa 468x60 or a few 120x60, don;t go crazy with a banner farm
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 01:00 PM
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can I have a 468x60 + 2 text links?
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 01:01 PM
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yeh fine
Date and Time: 04/17/2005 01:01 PM
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ok! that is what I will have!
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:51 PM
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have you forgoten my paypal?
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:52 PM
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no I funded it, waiting for the funds to show up so I don't write an echeck bro, faster that way
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:52 PM
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ok...
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:53 PM
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the place has picked up a bit, how do you like it
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:54 PM
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its great!
Date and Time: 04/18/2005 02:54 PM
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some nice posts there reading them now
Date and Time: 04/21/2005 02:56 AM
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looks like I will never see that money....
Date and Time: 04/21/2005 10:06 AM
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hey bro didn't I say I'm funding the thing, I'm looking everyday at it, 1 or 2 more days they'll release the hold on the check patient please
Date and Time: 04/24/2005 10:05 PM
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Listen to I told you I have out sourcing people do payments, they fuck up, but I set up my own accounts and you'll have your money tomoprrow, and I don't want any of your bullshit posts on my board ever again. stop the crap.

Jesus what a fucking mess, why in the do people still post on his board?

[MP]

I thought you might have said a positive word about me before it turned into sticking my ass into someone's opened wound. Thanks.

This is very easy we protect people we know, or don't know. When we see the warning flags we try and get details before more people get hurt, so that is why we are asking. It's a simple question, plus if you are associated with him in anyway then that looks bad on you.

[xclusive]

adultmix like MP said don't take this personal. We all look out for each other and if you are legit you have nothing to worry about and we would stick up for you as well.

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adultmix like MP said don't take this personal. We all look out for each other and if you are legit you have nothing to worry about and we would stick up for you as well.

yes...it is like when I working for Juan from Heaven Production (I didint knew but he did lots of shit like not paying his designers [there where a few threads on oprano about it], but I personally never had any problems with him) for me he was one of the good guys....but he screwed things up, and because of that I almost screwed myself too...