Another oil spill thread...

[AbulletAway]

So this morning I catch the news and they say that BP before they were allowed to drill its standard to have a plan for this kinda thing should it happen. They had a written plan to contain this kinda spill. Turns out, they lied. It was just paper. They lied.

I still don't see what the problem is. Dump 15 ton steel crate over the broken pipe. If they are not sure that will completely stop it, it will at least slow it down long enough to then cover the crate with concrete and the problem is solved. Ban BP from off shore drilling of our coasts and then sue the shit outta them to make sure they pay for everything from clean up to whatever eco recover is needed.

[PurrsianPussyKat]

You damn hippie liberal! :giggle:

[PurrsianPussyKat]

Sorry. I thought that was the default answer for anyone that thinks BP should be held responsible for destroying the ocean.

[яochard]

The law required them to have a plan on paper to deal with "problems" - i.e., leaks. However, some sixteen year old could have written out the plan.

Dropping a fifteen ton steel crate on it sounds easy, but how do you move something like that one mile under water?

[bbad]

The law required them to have a plan on paper to deal with "problems" - i.e., leaks. However, some sixteen year old could have written out the plan.

Dropping a fifteen ton steel crate on it sounds easy, but how do you move something like that one mile under water?

Apparently they're above the law and don't need safety shit to prevent things like this, thinking that nothing bad can happen that far below... so maybe they're genius enough to move it with their minds?

[riddler]

The law required them to have a plan on paper to deal with "problems" - i.e., leaks. However, some sixteen year old could have written out the plan.

Dropping a fifteen ton steel crate on it sounds easy, but how do you move something like that one mile under water?

exactly, it is easy to be an arm chair engineer but truth be told this is a massive undertaking to try and figure out how to stop something 5000+ feet below the sea, if all else fails they still have the nuclear bomb option to try and seal it up.

[Atominder]

it breaks my heart reading about such diaster of nature.

[AbulletAway]

I keep hearing about how it's a mile deep. It's not like they there was a hole in the ground and the oil suddenly came out. It's a pipe. They could accurately guide a massive steel crate over it. Sure they probably will have to be a little creative in getting it there. But, the point I am making is that it could be stopped. BP doesn't want to stop it, they want to tap it so they can back to it. Permanently closing it off, well, I am pretty sure they aren't even thinking of that yet.

It's like in those movies where some unknown creature is killing people. The hero just wants to kill it and be done with it but there's always some liberal loony who wants to take the creature alive. Thus causing more deaths until they finally see that killing it is the best option. They could stop the leak if they really wanted to but they don't want to. As much as the oil spill may cost them, if they seal it permanently then they've lost even more.

[riddler]

that oil spill will probably cost them more than that oil well would produce in its life time if they are able to utilize it again, it could be true that their game plan is to try and get oil from the well rather than just stop it but i dunno, it kind of does seem like that since its taking so long but again, i am not an engineer so i don't know how easy or hard it would be to stop a massive pressure leak at 5000 feet.

part of me thinks it should be easy to it but things arent always as easy as they seem which is sad since this bitch is going to destroy some serious marsh land.

[facialfreak]

does concrete even cure underwater?????? :eek3:

[Boonestoons]

Believe you me, once that oil hits the Florida beaches and those rich folks' real estate values drop, they'll plug up that hole faster than a Republican on a boy's butt.

[DonovanTrent]

Believe you me, once that oil hits the Florida beaches and those rich folks' real estate values drop, they'll plug up that hole faster than a Republican on a boy's butt.

Why do you think conservatives are actually screaming for the government to do something (besides the fact that it ain't their guy in the White House)? BP's stock is waaaaaay down!

[mikesinner]

They still haven't plugged the leak?

[DonovanTrent]

They still haven't plugged the leak?

What do YOU think? Their saw got stuck, they just got it freed up, I guess.

[cwd]

this just gets better and better...


"OSHA statistics show BP ran up 760 "egregious, willful" safety violations, while Sunoco and Conoco-Phillips each had eight, Citgo had two and Exxon had one comparable citation."


...just in the last 5 fucking years!!! How shitty do you have to be to be over 700 times worse than Exxon! Fuuuuuuccckkkk

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bps-dismal-safety-record/story?id=10763042&page=1

[DonovanTrent]

this just gets better and better...


"OSHA statistics show BP ran up 760 "egregious, willful" safety violations, while Sunoco and Conoco-Phillips each had eight, Citgo had two and Exxon had one comparable citation."


...just in the last 5 fucking years!!! How shitty do you have to be to be over 700 times worse than Exxon! Fuuuuuuccckkkk

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bps-dismal-safety-record/story?id=10763042&page=1


BP subscribes to the "go big or go home" philosophy.

[RaVagE]

They won't blow up or block the pipe completely because they still want to properly siphon the oil for their profits. Destroying the pipe to the point they would need to drill a new hole (Drill Baby Drill!), is not an option to them.

Currently BP isn't doing much of any clean up. Even though the oil is still flowing, it'd be nice to see they are doing something in addition to stem the spread.

It was reported that their Super-tankers can be used to suck in seawater and that at a refinery location, 855 of the oil in the water can be reclaimed. In addition, this act will help clean the waters. This was done in Saudi Arabia and was very hush hush.

BP however is not even considering it as it'll cost them millions to tie up their super-tankers to clean the water.

My question is, why are they not FORCED to do this? I'm sorry, but if you create a natural disaster, you choice of how you run your business, assets and company, etc, should no longer be under your control until the problem is solved.