Content licenses, do you read them?

[jact]

[03] UNACCEPTABLE USES OF LICENSED CONTENT

Images may not be used as free content for affiliates in a sponsorship program, hosted galleries for affiliates in a sponsorship program, or any other use that allows anyone other than Licensee to use the images. A special license is available for this purpose.

Now I would suspect that section stands out pretty well if you bother to read licenses. A lot of people don't apparently.

Anyone have contact info for JenC from PhatBucks? Thanks.

[Mailman]

:drunk: :popcorn:

this will make for a good thread!

[jact]

Originally posted by mailman
:drunk: :popcorn:

this will make for a good thread! No drama, I'd just like to be compensated for the use of the content is all.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by jact
No drama, I'd just like to be compensated for the use of the content is all.

I'm sure our producers would, too. NOTHING waters down the value of content like using it in FHG's. That's why it's a special rate with a special license. So it doesn't become worthless to our customers.

[LadyMischief]

Or rather, us. It's stuff we shot heh.

[XxXotic]

some people :(

[Tanker]

I always read them when I owned my content company I had to deal with tons of people not reading the liscense

[Bryan Havoc]

I hate when people don't read licenses/terms and conditions. They're there for a reason.

[Tobbe]

I always read it but can forget very easy!

[MarcyM25]

I always read the license, that kind of trouble would be the last thing I'd want.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by Tobbe
I always read it but can forget very easy!

Always good to go back and refer to the license again when doing a new project with content. There aren't really any content companies that allow their content for use with hosted galleries without a special license, with good reason. I believe Paul Markham's bargain basement content does, however it's already pretty watered down, hence the reason for the rock bottom prices.

[cool1]

I always read them
my problem is getting the signed licence back to the content seller.

I still have a few to mail out, I just keep forgetting to do that.
maybe today, I will go get them out.

[MP]

I can and ask in detail, you have to cover your ass :)

[Boss Lady]

honestly sometimes yes and sometimes no

[PurrsianPussyKat]

I always at least skim a license when I buy content.. it's a thing that carrys over from my speed reading courses in school. If something stands out like the paragraph you mentioned, it sticks with me. However, if I am using the content for something I feel could be questionably, I will ALWAYS pull out the contract to be 100% sure I'm not breaking the rules. Better to be safe than sorry. :)

[AbulletAway]

I can't read. But I did see some popcorn in this thread and now I want some.

[PurrsianPussyKat]

Originally posted by AbulletAway
I can't read. But I did see some popcorn in this thread and now I want some.

I'm always happy to share!
Pull up a chair. ;)
:popcorn:

[JenC]

Hey Jact.....I actually already knew you didn't allow your stuff to be used for hosted galleries as I've seen you post it on here before. So when I pick out stuff to use for hosted galleries, I make sure to disclude your stuff.

HOWEVER I did have a partner that used to make our hosted galleries for us and I wouldn't be too shocked that he might have used something of yours. Please just login to Phat Bucks and look at all of our galleries and tell me which ones are yours.

Hit me up on ICQ and I'll have the situation remedied right away. 46791886

No drama, I don't have time for it. I don't even have time to post on message boards much anymore. Just ICQ me and we'll fix it.

[AbulletAway]

no drama :(

But I was gonna have popcorn with PK and have her read it to me.

[Bryan Havoc]

this thread was such a letdown. all this popcorn's gonna go to waste.

[Fluid]

we need some fake drama...someone pretend they're jen c

[PurrsianPussyKat]

Originally posted by JenC


HOWEVER I did have a partner that used to make our hosted galleries for us and I wouldn't be too shocked that he might have used something of yours. Please just login to Phat Bucks and look at all of our galleries and tell me which ones are yours.



Not to be a fly in the ointment, but as a program owner, shouldn't you know what content is in your FHG? :confused:

[jact]

There was no need for drama, I knew Jen would catch wind of the thread and things would get settled. Hitting you up now Jen.

[dizmo]

i always read contracts...helpes me not to get in trouble...usually trouble seeks me...or...ya...

.r

[LadyMischief]

Yeah I figured it would be good too. It's a good lesson to newcomers though for sure.

[Rictor]

Yes, I read the license. I usually try to only buy from sites that have a pretty open license since I like some leeway in what I do with my content. I also try to buy free content rights to most nonexclusive sets I buy, even if that means I have to pay extra for full resell rights.

Some sites I won't buy from until I e-mail them and see if they'll modify their license for my needs. Worldwide Content is a good example.

[Fluid]

So I should pull all those free hosted galleries I made up the other night using the jact content? :D

Actually..here's a question, since I do have to buy some very soon, how much more expensive is the rights to use content in FHG? I mean ballpark?

[jact]

Originally posted by Fluid
So I should pull all those free hosted galleries I made up the other night using the jact content? :D

Actually..here's a question, since I do have to buy some very soon, how much more expensive is the rights to use content in FHG? I mean ballpark? As I don't like doing it, $1 per image (For the set, not $1 per image you're going to use in the gallery) and we ask that you don't select sets under 50 photos.

[Fluid]

Is that on top of the cost of the set for normal use, like a surcharge or is that total?

[jact]

Originally posted by Fluid
Is that on top of the cost of the set for normal use, like a surcharge or is that total? Case by case basis, as I said, I really don't like doing it, it waters down the value of the content.. Same reason I don't use my own content for galleries, waters it down. Customers come first.

[StuartD]

I don't read them....

uhm.. I've never bought content, or claimed any I've won.. or... uhhm... I've never had content.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
Always good to go back and refer to the license again when doing a new project with content. There aren't really any content companies that allow their content for use with hosted galleries without a special license, with good reason. I believe Paul Markham's bargain basement content does, however it's already pretty watered down, hence the reason for the rock bottom prices. Thanks for the mention LM.

But this has me thinking, what are we protecting and for who?

I'm starting to think it's not in my interest to protect my clients content, because when it's sold that's who I'm protecting. Yes they all want sets that are less distributed, but they want to pay the same money or less.

Two weeks ago, we put up a section of semi-exclusive sets, were going to do videos, which gave the buyer the option of buying sets that would be sold 5 or 10 times at a slightly increased price.

To date out of the 3 sets available and 20 licenses we have sold two licenses in two weeks, on this set. A set that if I put it out as normal I would sell 20 minimum.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/semi.jpg

And this set we have not sold at all, again at the normal price it would be flying out.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/semi2.jpg

When it comes to hosted galleries, affiliates, etc. Am I protecting 10 clients and and turning away 20 who would buy if they could give content to affiliates.

If paysite owners want to flood the Internet with my content then fine let them. I'm after sales to the many, because it seems selling to a few is not wanted, unless it comes for free.

ps
Sorry for putting the pictures up, it is only to illustrate that the sets are good.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by jact
As I don't like doing it, $1 per image (For the set, not $1 per image you're going to use in the gallery) and we ask that you don't select sets under 50 photos. Am I right in assuming that's $50 on top for a 50 image set?