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PurrsianPussyKat
01-03-2007, 10:24 PM
Canadian dollar steamrollered by U.S. dollar

TORONTO (CP) - The Canadian dollar fell to a nine-month low against the U.S. dollar Wednesday and analysts say the loonie likely has further down to go as commodity prices weaken and traders favour the U.S. currency.

The loonie was worth 85.42 cents US early in the afternoon, down 0.52 of a cent on the day in an ongoing decline from its 28-year high in June of just over 91 cents.

It was still at 89 cents at the end of October, slid to 87 1/2 cents by the end of November and closed 2006 at 85.81 cents.

In the near term it could be headed below 85 cents, said Katherine Beattie, currency technical analyst at Action Economics.

She noted that better than expected U.S. manufacturing data Wednesday morning generated a strong rally in the American dollar.

"That just shows the state of the market: the market wants to buy the U.S. dollar," Beattie said, suggesting the loonie could be at 84.75 cents within a week.

"The resources are down and it's having an impact on the dollar," commented Chyanne Fyckes, chief investment manager at Stone Asset Management.

Crude oil fell $2.41 to US$58.64 per barrel early in the afternoon in New York and natural gas was down 13.4 cents at US$6.165 per million British thermal units, while copper sagged 20 cents to US$2.67 a pound and gold faded $7.40 to US$630.60 an ounce.

"It's all driven on resources, it's all a vicious cycle," Fyckes said. "As long as the resources keep going down, the dollar will go down."

Don Drummond, chief economist at TD Bank, observed that the Canada-U.S. exchange rate closely tracks commodity prices.

"There used to be a time when it just traded with non-energy commodity prices but lately it's been trading very closely with energy commodity prices, in particular oil prices - they're still, from a historical level, pretty high, but they're a long way from the $78 peak they hit last spring," Drummond said.

"We've seen most of the commodity prices pull off, it's not just energy prices. A lot of the base metals, copper in particular, have pulled off quite a bit, and the expectation is certainly that there's going to be a further pullback on the base-metal prices, and that'll take some of the shine off the Canadian dollar."

Drummond added that he doubts the currency will weaken much further, and expects it to revive in the second half of the year.

Steve Butler, director of foreign-exchange trading at Scotia Capital, pointed out that in the big picture the Canadian dollar didn't have such a bad day.

"Certainly against the U.S. dollar it's much weaker, but against a lot of the currencies in Europe it's having a good day," Butler said. "And in the last few months Canada's been just weakening against almost every currency."

The loonie was up 0.24 of a penny against the British pound at 43.79 pence - down from 50.5 pence in early March and 47 in late October. It was worth 64.87 euro cents, up 0.16 of a cent on the day against the European currency but down from 74 cents in late February and over 70 cents in October.

Much of the currency's recent decline has been "flow-driven" amid "an exodus of investors out of Canada," Butler said. "I still think we've got potential to see Canada weaken off."

Since Oct. 31, when federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty announced drastic changes in tax policy toward income trusts, "Canada's been on kind of a downward spiral," Butler observed.

"Certainly the commodities are not helping - oil's down quite a bit, natural gas has really been suffering the last couple of weeks with this warmer weather."

TD's Drummond was less inclined to hang the loonie's performance on Flaherty's decision to tax trusts, noting that late October also coincided with the downturn in commodity prices.

"Certainly in theory, and I have no doubt that the theory spilled over to practice, the income trust announcement should have weakened the Canadian dollar, because particularly the energy trusts were being held very heavily by foreign investors," Drummond said.

"If they were getting out of those investments there would have been a net outflow of capital."

Nonetheless, he said, "historically you can pretty accurately predict the Canadian dollar by tracking what's going on in commodity prices."

Source : http://money.canoe.ca/News/Economy/2007/01/03/3154505-cp.html

XxXotic
01-03-2007, 10:35 PM
hahahahahah sucks to be canadian

PurrsianPussyKat
01-03-2007, 10:48 PM
I could be wrong.. but I think this is actually good for them? :confused:

XxXotic
01-03-2007, 10:51 PM
I could be wrong.. but I think this is actually good for them? :confused:only if they get paid in USD (which most canadians don't) and even then theyre only making 16 cents on the dollar extra, though I'm sure they'll bitch about that :crazy:

XxXotic
01-03-2007, 10:55 PM
17 cents, sorry

1 USD = 1.17162 CAD

the Shemp
01-03-2007, 11:07 PM
very good news :)

Seven888
01-04-2007, 04:00 AM
1.1494 from my bank

PMC
01-04-2007, 07:15 AM
it makes me very happy :)

maxkit
01-04-2007, 08:35 AM
He he, It sounds great
whatever,
1 USD = 1,3 Euro ;)

Panky
01-04-2007, 09:09 AM
17 cents on ever dollar is still better than dollar for dollar. Guaranteed, I can remember earning a $1.65CAD for every American dollar, but as long as the value is not equal or I only receive like 80 cents CAD for every $1USD, it's all good.

Capt. 'rold
01-04-2007, 09:48 AM
sweet! Where's that dancing banana Panky has? :)

Mailman
01-04-2007, 09:53 AM
ITS VERY GOOD NEWS FOR US...

the only way it really sucks for canadains is when we pay for things in USD or buy USD it has no real effect on anyone.

Mailman
01-04-2007, 09:54 AM
sweet! Where's that dancing banana Panky has? :)

.... better then a banana ....

XxXotic
01-04-2007, 10:09 AM
ITS VERY GOOD NEWS FOR US...

the only way it really sucks for canadains is when we pay for things in USD or buy USD it has no real effect on anyone.umm... you didn't pay attention in economics 101 did you? a weak dollar effects you in more ways than you can possibly imagine including higher prices on anything imported from another country as well as an increased "cost of living"

SirMoby
01-04-2007, 10:44 AM
only if they get paid in USD (which most canadians don't) and even then theyre only making 16 cents on the dollar extra, though I'm sure they'll bitch about that :crazy:
Canadian webmasters usually get paid in US$ so many of my friends should be happy :)

XxXotic
01-04-2007, 10:55 AM
Canadian webmasters usually get paid in US$ so many of my friends should be happy :)no they won't be, they'll bitch that theyre still not getting 1.65 on a dollar like "the good ole days"

i had this argument with someone (I forget who, mighta been jact) not too long ago, if I *earn* 1 dollar and get paid 1.10 i'm happy, i'm not complaining that I earned more than I should have yet you'll find dozens of threads here with people bitching that they only made X amount of dollars extra instead of what they would have made 5 years when the rates were better

of course not ALL will bitch, but most will

Panky
01-04-2007, 11:18 AM
sweet! Where's that dancing banana Panky has? :)
This one?
http://image.rotteneggs.com/r3/cache_images/13/131919.jpg


:D

Mailman
01-04-2007, 11:41 AM
umm... you didn't pay attention in economics 101 did you? a weak dollar effects you in more ways than you can possibly imagine including higher prices on anything imported from another country as well as an increased "cost of living"


From 99-00 when we were getting 1.60 cdn for 1 usd to now when we get about 1.10 cdn for 1 usd not much has changed in price of items and living goes up each year strong dollar or not.

Capt. 'rold
01-04-2007, 11:45 AM
This one?
http://image.rotteneggs.com/r3/cache_images/13/131919.jpg


:D

that's the one :) Couldnt be a better time for that banana than right now :lol1:

Panky
01-04-2007, 11:55 AM
From 99-00 when we were getting 1.60 cdn for 1 usd to now when we get about 1.10 cdn for 1 usd not much has changed in price of items and living goes up each year strong dollar or not.
Cost of living increases for the Americans as well, but they still only earn dollar for dollar. Living in Canada and getting paid an average of $1.10 - $1.17 CDN for every $1.00 USD, is still better than living in the US and only getting paid dollar for dollar.

Panky
01-04-2007, 11:58 AM
that's the one :) Couldnt be a better time for that banana than right now :lol1:
LOL! I like the little banana too. And yes... it is a good time to bring the banana out. :D

Mr. Blue
01-04-2007, 12:03 PM
This one?
http://image.rotteneggs.com/r3/cache_images/13/131919.jpg


:D

I got nervous there for a minute when he asked to see your dancing banana :corky:

Panky
01-04-2007, 12:10 PM
I got nervous there for a minute when he asked to see your dancing banana :corky:
LOL! Well, depends who is doing the asking. I won't show my banana to just anyone. :crazyeyes


It's good to see you today Dr. Blue. I was wondering when you would come out to play. :D

Mr. Blue
01-04-2007, 12:36 PM
LOL! Well, depends who is doing the asking. I won't show my banana to just anyone. :crazyeyes


It's good to see you today Dr. Blue. I was wondering when you would come out to play. :D

I'm on a chocolate high from someone who shall remain nameless...it's given me the energy to post and to do my work.

Panky
01-04-2007, 12:54 PM
I'm on a chocolate high from someone who shall remain nameless...it's given me the energy to post and to do my work.
LOL! :D Notice how I didn't pay attention to the whole diet thing Mrs. Blue has you on. :1eye: