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pam
10-31-2006, 07:02 PM
Those of us who own review sites generally pay between $0 (yes, one review site owner told me he pays nothing since the reviewer gets free porn) to $35 per review. I'd say the average is around $20 per review, which is about 500-600 words. This is just from talking to other review site owners but don't take it to the bank lol. Many of us work together to trade reciprocal reviews to increase traffic.

I just got an email from someone offering to set me up with their reviewer and the price listed is $100 per review for an in-depth review.

Holy shit!

I currently have 7 reviewers on staff and 5 are active. If they get wind that someone is paying $100 a review I'll have no staff left!

:crazy:

XxXotic
10-31-2006, 07:06 PM
I pay 0 cuz I write my own and ask for passwords to review the sites. like im gonna buy a membership to promote someones site lol thats just stupid

Cyndalie
10-31-2006, 07:19 PM
I would never throw down 800 words for anything under 120$, for any purpose. Reviewing porn or in depth tutorial. 1000 words $150 minimum. The 'free porn' aspect is for surfer 'feedback' only.

pam
10-31-2006, 07:50 PM
I don't think many review sites would survive if they had to pay $100+ per review.

Guess that's like designers who charge $40 per gallery design.

Cyndalie
10-31-2006, 07:53 PM
Yeah, I hear you Pam.
I have never done a review so I'm not sure what is involved beyond what I can imagine. Seems easy but that creative touch to make each unique and valuable does take a good eye and writing talent.

Mr. Goat
10-31-2006, 09:23 PM
Damn would need to send 5 to 10 sales to the site to break even depending on the payouts!

pam
10-31-2006, 09:26 PM
Damn would need to send 5 to 10 sales to the site to break even depending on the payouts!

Yep, plus what about all the reviews I publish for sites that suck? Bad enough I don't make anything on those but imagine losing $100 on each one!

PMC
10-31-2006, 11:11 PM
i would do it just for a free pass.

tajmahal
11-01-2006, 03:56 AM
sombody is trying to ruin some stuff there...

Seven888
11-01-2006, 10:14 AM
What a rip

Fonz
11-01-2006, 10:48 AM
Last time I paid someone to write 5 reviews of 400 words it costed me $50 and they were pretty good. $100 sure is a lot....

Mr. Blue
11-01-2006, 10:48 AM
I'm just curious...did you see a sample of the work? Was it a much higher quality than the standard review? Would a very creative writer add something to the overall site that maybe a $20 reviewer couldn't?

I'm just curious as I read some blogs regularly (I know, not the same as review sites), but what makes me bookmark it, visit regularly, is the fact that the writer is extremely engaging and sets that page apart from the standard blog.

I'm just wondering as you said if they wrote a review for a crappy website you wouldn't make the money back, but if the review was really good, humorous, etc, wouldn't you still profit from the review because you may pick up a loyal surfer that would purchase at one of the other sites in your review list?

pam
11-01-2006, 11:54 AM
I still make sales from lousy reviews, but not that often. If a site rips you off, i.e. they claim to be a "niche" site but they have one site in that niche and 200 sets in other niches, or you have to pay to actually view the videos, etc -- then I make nothing at all. You can pretty it up all you want and inject personal comments (as my folks do) but the bottom line is if a site sucks, it's going to be very hard to sell it.

Yes, I've seen the work of this reviewer and he/she is good, but I don't believe a review is worth $100.

If they visit the review site they generally plan to make a purchase. So, if I've paid $100 per review for 2 reviews, and they join one site ... I've lost.

I liken it to a gallery designer. You can pay $10 for a gallery design or you can pay $40 for a gallery design. Does the design sell it or is it the content and text that really makes the sale?

Mr. Blue
11-01-2006, 12:17 PM
I liken it to a gallery designer. You can pay $10 for a gallery design or you can pay $40 for a gallery design. Does the design sell it or is it the content and text that really makes the sale?

Whether the person is charging $10 or $40 all depends on the quality of the work and their experience as a builder/submitter.

Anyone with photoshop skills can claim to be a designer, you pay them $10 for the gallery and it may look pretty, it may look great, but there's a good chance it'll suck conversion ratio wise.

If the person that's charging $40 a template has a long history as a gallery builder / submitter...there's a much higher chance of that gallery converting because the design will not distract from the content, instead it'll compliment the content, and be a nice doorway to the paysite.

Content sells the site, there's no doubt about that, but design and flow of the design also matters. I carefully track the gallery designs I build, some designs just convert better...plain and simple, doesn't matter what content, site, etc, I'm pushing.

So, I'd have to look at the designers work / experience level before I say whether or not their template is worth the money. I'm just not a person that judges purely on the price...if there's experience there, the re-usability of the template will easily pay for itself.

Mr. Blue
11-01-2006, 12:20 PM
Oh, and that's why I asked you if you saw a sample of their work...if it was the standard type review and they were asking $100...then its a no brainer. If there writing was particularly special, engaging, interesting, etc...well then it's certainly something to consider regarding their asking price.

Panky
11-01-2006, 12:38 PM
It's the writers skill as well as the time involved to research and write that people are paying for. If the review site owner already knows they can convert the site, it may be worth it to them to pay the $100 fee.

pam
11-01-2006, 12:49 PM
Whether the person is charging $10 or $40 all depends on the quality of the work and their experience as a builder/submitter.

Anyone with photoshop skills can claim to be a designer, you pay them $10 for the gallery and it may look pretty, it may look great, but there's a good chance it'll suck conversion ratio wise.

Well, not to hijack my own thread, but I've submitted well-designed galleries and really crappy designs, and haven't really noticed a difference at all. I think it depends on the niche, too. Granted, I don't submit a lot, probably 1-2 times a week if I remember but the galleries that get the most sales (with one particular sponsor) are really pretty lousy without many graphics and mostly just text.

(In that same vein, I have someone doing a mainstream design for me and his portfolio rocked, but so far his designs are crap and look juvenile, cheap and as if an amateur were doing them).

I've had a lot of surfers tell me they don't give a damn about design, they don't care about colors and they don't care if things are lined up properly -- when I tell them I'm fussing over something and want it to be perfect.

I think my writers are good and I'd love to pay them $100 each per review. Maybe if I were doing 1000 sales a day, I'd consider it, but then again, at that point I'd probably push them aside and take the writing jobs myself.

:lol1:

Mr. Blue
11-01-2006, 01:04 PM
Well, not to hijack my own thread, but I've submitted well-designed galleries and really crappy designs, and haven't really noticed a difference at all. I think it depends on the niche, too. Granted, I don't submit a lot, probably 1-2 times a week if I remember but the galleries that get the most sales (with one particular sponsor) are really pretty lousy without many graphics and mostly just text.

Didn't say the best designs were the heavy photoshop templates :D In fact I don't like those type of galleries and probably why I would never hire a designer that did those types of galleries.

I do notice though that certain designs do a lot better than others...I've built a lot of galleries though, submit a lot daily, always designed my own, so perhaps I notice trends, etc that seem to garner the best results.

There's only a few people (maybe 2) in the biz that I'd pay $40 for a gallery template though. I'm just saying that price isn't my automatic first thought when I hire someone...quality/experience/reliability...all factors when I'm looking to hire someone.

Roald_FreeOnes
11-01-2006, 01:10 PM
ahhh you got the same email huh ;)

pam
11-01-2006, 01:59 PM
ahhh you got the same email huh ;)

:naughty:

Would/could you pay $100 a review? Shit, one of my writers visits this board if he sees he can get $100 I'm going to lose him!!!

I will agree that you should pay more for quality. And, I've been told that the reviews are up to 2,000 words, which is obviously quite a bit more text than the "average" review.

My guys better not jump ship