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Aišo
08-25-2012, 05:13 PM
So I don't get it, I go to Chaturbate to check it out, and the first two rooms I click on it says "This Performer Does Not Accept Tips". First room was one girl fucking another in the ass with a strap on and the other was a girl sucking her boyfriends cock. about 400 - 500 people in each room.

So, these people are working cams for free, and not even giving the option of people to use tokens? And on top of that there are ads all the fuck over the site and a popunder?

Why would I ever want to send my cam traffic to a site where people work the cams for free and there are more ads over it than the back page of a magazine?

Am I missing something? That's kind of as bad if not worse than a fucking tube site if you ask me.

djroof
08-25-2012, 05:17 PM
maybe cam models haven't verified account so of course they cant accept tokens. They don't know maybe that must send age ids so chaturbate verify the account and be ready for tokens.

Aišo
08-25-2012, 05:38 PM
maybe cam models haven't verified account so of course they cant accept tokens. They don't know maybe that must send age ids so chaturbate verify the account and be ready for tokens.

So they let girls fuck each other in the ass and suck cock on cam before verifying their ages? Wow.

Panky
08-25-2012, 06:15 PM
I never understood how anyone makes any decent money through the site. The first time I visited, the majority of the girls and guys had no idea what the tease factor is and how to lure someone in. There was no incentive to actually buy tokens and start tipping. Weeks later and it was still the same.

I hate the pop-ups too! Do affiliates get credit for those pops?

djroof
08-26-2012, 05:25 AM
So they let girls fuck each other in the ass and suck cock on cam before verifying their ages? Wow.

of course, when u sign up u verify that u are over18. BUT for tokens they need some special ids and pics which u hold next to your face etc. So if they didn't that they can't accept tokens. My opinion... punker is around here and will response ASAP ;)

Aišo
08-26-2012, 12:55 PM
of course, when u sign up u verify that u are over18. BUT for tokens they need some special ids and pics which u hold next to your face etc. So if they didn't that they can't accept tokens. My opinion... punker is around here and will response ASAP ;)

What the fuck do you mean of course? It's fucking illegal to show someone having sex on cam without having their ID you fucking idiot.

djroof
08-26-2012, 01:09 PM
What the fuck do you mean of course? It's fucking illegal to show someone having sex on cam without having their ID you fucking idiot.

Hmmmm interesting u know the rules better than a company which has legal department... mad legal skillzzzzz

Aišo
08-26-2012, 01:11 PM
Hmmmm interesting u know the rules better than a company which has legal department... mad legal skillzzzzz

You're a fucking idiot, seriously. You should probably stop talking on behalf of Chaturbate, since you are obviously so fucking clueless, and are making them look really really bad.

djroof
08-27-2012, 06:27 AM
You're a fucking idiot, seriously. You should probably stop talking on behalf of Chaturbate, since you are obviously so fucking clueless, and are making them look really really bad.

I don't behalf of Chaturbate.... just my thought is... I wrote anywhere that I am from Chaturbate or I am the support department? I just promote Chaturbate I have 5-6 users working on it and just posted my FUCKIN THOUGHT if u don't like just disable my posts... if u know about board settings... if not let me help u...

Quasimodo88
08-27-2012, 04:55 PM
I dont know why somebody doesnt accept tips, but its true... i have a same problem with this site...

punker barbie
08-27-2012, 05:57 PM
So I don't get it, I go to Chaturbate to check it out, and the first two rooms I click on it says "This Performer Does Not Accept Tips". First room was one girl fucking another in the ass with a strap on and the other was a girl sucking her boyfriends cock. about 400 - 500 people in each room.

So, these people are working cams for free, and not even giving the option of people to use tokens? And on top of that there are ads all the fuck over the site and a popunder?

Why would I ever want to send my cam traffic to a site where people work the cams for free and there are more ads over it than the back page of a magazine?

Am I missing something? That's kind of as bad if not worse than a fucking tube site if you ask me.

Those are exhibitionist. In order to accept tokens they need submit documentation to get "Age Verified" which is very easy to do. We send them PM's & e-mail them encouraging them to do that.

punker barbie
08-27-2012, 06:00 PM
I never understood how anyone makes any decent money through the site. The first time I visited, the majority of the girls and guys had no idea what the tease factor is and how to lure someone in. There was no incentive to actually buy tokens and start tipping. Weeks later and it was still the same.

I hate the pop-ups too! Do affiliates get credit for those pops?


Girls are def. making money or they wouldn't be returning.

Quasimodo88
08-27-2012, 06:03 PM
Those are exhibitionist. In order to accept tokens they need submit documentation to get "Age Verified" which is very easy to do. We send them PM's & e-mail them encouraging them to do that.

So you can stream yourself even you are underage...

Aišo
08-27-2012, 06:03 PM
Those are exhibitionist. In order to accept tokens they need submit documentation to get "Age Verified" which is very easy to do. We send them PM's & e-mail them encouraging them to do that.

So I'll ask again, you allow performers to perform live sex on cam without verifying their age first?

punker barbie
08-27-2012, 06:04 PM
So I don't get it, I go to Chaturbate to check it out, and the first two rooms I click on it says "This Performer Does Not Accept Tips". First room was one girl fucking another in the ass with a strap on and the other was a girl sucking her boyfriends cock. about 400 - 500 people in each room.

So, these people are working cams for free, and not even giving the option of people to use tokens? And on top of that there are ads all the fuck over the site and a popunder?

Why would I ever want to send my cam traffic to a site where people work the cams for free and there are more ads over it than the back page of a magazine?

Am I missing something? That's kind of as bad if not worse than a fucking tube site if you ask me.


In regards to ads- The site is genuinely 100% Free for the user. When signing up no credit card is needed and providing an e-mail is optional.

We need ads to help sustain the "Free Model". We have never tried to hide ads from affiliates. In fact at the request of affiliates we even took out ads from affiliate links on first click.

You can always make a white label and get rid of those outside ads.

punker barbie
08-27-2012, 06:05 PM
So you can stream yourself even you are underage...

As soon as a room is reported underage our automated system suspends the room and takes it offline.

Aišo
08-27-2012, 06:08 PM
Wow.... I will never send a single click to a site that opening allows for underage performers like you do. Just fucking wow....

good luck with your underage porn business.

Fucking disgusting

Quasimodo88
08-27-2012, 06:21 PM
As soon as a room is reported underage our automated system suspends the room and takes it offline.

really interesting rules...

Quasimodo88
08-27-2012, 06:26 PM
I had a bad feeling that i saw someone underage at your live cam stream himself but i but I thought that it ok, because i was sure that every user is verified by you... so i have to remove your live cam from my site, because i dont want to any problems...

Panky
08-27-2012, 06:34 PM
Those are exhibitionist. In order to accept tokens they need submit documentation to get "Age Verified" which is very easy to do. We send them PM's & e-mail them encouraging them to do that.

Why allow them to perform before they go through the age verification process? What happens when they ignore emails or PM's?

Panky
08-27-2012, 06:40 PM
As soon as a room is reported underage our automated system suspends the room and takes it offline.

Instead of not allowing a performer to go live until the age has been verified, the company relies on users to report someone to be underage? How would users know unless it was blatantly obvious, (like a 12 year old), that the performer is underage? Some girls and guys are 15/16 and look 18. Others are 18 and look like a 15-16-17 year old. Then there are users who would never report an underage performer because they are into that sort of thing.

punker barbie
08-27-2012, 06:44 PM
Instead of not allowing a performer to go live until the age has been verified, the company relies on users to report someone to be underage? How would users know unless it was blatantly obvious, (like a 12 year old), that the performer is underage? Some girls and guys are 15/16 and look 18. Others are 18 and look like a 15-16-17 year old. Then there are users who would never report an underage performer because they are into that sort of thing.

We have a staff monitoring the site 24 hours a day. Its not solely based on reports.

facialfreak
08-27-2012, 06:46 PM
If you have ever sent a single click to REALITY KINGS, then you are a hypocrite ......... js

Just ask Bieyanka .....

The sad reality is, no matter how hard we try to keep underage performers out, there are always going to be the odd one who slips through - be it with fake ID, or what have you - just the same as you can be sure that under age kids will get served at bars, or at the liquor store.

"Allowing" underage performers, would entail allowing them to continue performing even after it has become known and confirmed that they are under age, and thus breaking the law.

While I may not condone Chaturbate's policy to allow ANYBODY to set up an account and instantly start streaming a cam feed - I think it is very reckless - I also have to correct you, that they are not openly allowing or promoting under age performers.

While I don't like the fact that Chaturbate makes it easy for underage performers to get online - even if it is for 5 minutes to settle a dare - before they are removed from the system ... there is a major difference between this practice and openly "allowing" underage performers.

DarkWeb
08-27-2012, 07:10 PM
Man I'd like to know where this goes.....I was just checking out your site :popcorn:

Mr. Goat
08-27-2012, 07:43 PM
This thread clearly bought up an interesting topic and obviously did not start off on the right foot!

I think Aico makes a valid point and a good point in that allowing anyone to preform on camera on whats to be promoted as an adult cam network is not a wise decision in any event without verification first BUT it is their business model, their site and I'm sure their lawyers have also taken a look and see no issues with it? :what:

All in all maybe everyone can take a step back and Punker Barbie can give us all a little better run down of how they operate in depth so everyone can make a better judgment of their site and business model as opposed to one factor around it that blew up this thread.

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яochard
08-27-2012, 10:04 PM
This thread clearly bought up an interesting topic and obviously did not start off on the right foot!

I think Aico makes a valid point and a good point in that allowing anyone to preform on camera on whats to be promoted as an adult cam network is not a wise decision in any event without verification first BUT it is their business model, their site and I'm sure their lawyers have also taken a look and see no issues with it? :what:

All in all maybe everyone can take a step back and Punker Barbie can give us all a little better run down of how they operate in depth so everyone can make a better judgment of their site and business model as opposed to one factor around it that blew up this thread.

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I think the board should require ID from everyone to ensure that everyone is of legal age BEFORE reading or posting here.

baddog
08-27-2012, 10:05 PM
I think the board should require ID from everyone to ensure that everyone is of legal age BEFORE reading or posting here.

You think they are anywhere close to the same?

Panky
08-27-2012, 11:01 PM
Girls are def. making money or they wouldn't be returning.

I have no doubt that some performers are making money. Some people actually do understand the concept of the tease factor and use it to their advantage. They are good at luring them in and building up a fan base / repeat clientele.

I just know from the times I've visited the site that there were many performers who have no understanding whatsoever of the tease factor and were giving away all the good stuff for free. I watched, never needing to register and never needing to purchase a single token to enjoy the show.

Add on top of that the cams classified as exhibitionists, where it states the broadcaster can not accept tokens and then the performer is giving away all the goods, it just reinforces the idea in the surfers head that one doesn't actually have to purchase tokens to enjoy some of the cam shows. As a result, webmasters need to throw even more traffic at the site to compensate.

Panky
08-27-2012, 11:26 PM
We have a staff monitoring the site 24 hours a day. Its not solely based on reports.

It's still a judgment call. Susceptible to human error. Why not just have a cam feed only go live when the performer has met all the age verification requirements and then have staff monitor the site to ensure things are running smoothly and people aren't violating the terms of service.

Sure, performers can submit false documents to verify age. Some potential performers will get caught and denied, others will get in, but it's still better than just allowing feeds to go live and rely on staff members and users to detect and report suspected underage performers.

***I'm not saying at all that the company allows underage performers - meaning that Chaturbate has knowledge that a performer is underage and lets them perform anyway. I just think it is irresponsible and unprofessional for a company not to verify age before allowing the cam feed to go live.


You never answered my question either...
What happens when Chaturbate requests a performer to verify their age and the PM's and emails go unanswered? Are the performers required to verify age? Is there a time limit a performer must comply within or can they continue to perform for as long as they like classified as an exhibitionist and unable to accept tokens?

thelegacy
08-28-2012, 10:38 AM
How is it any different than Cam4 I believe which is owned by Python?

яochard
08-28-2012, 11:15 AM
You think they are anywhere close to the same?

I do. A sixteen year old shouldn't be posting on this board. Or involved in the adult industry.

I don't want to name names, but I can recall one person who wasn't old enough to be in this industry when they started attending trade shows... (And no, it wasn't Punker.)

djroof
08-28-2012, 02:18 PM
I do. A sixteen year old shouldn't be posting on this board. Or involved in the adult industry.

I don't want to name names, but I can recall one person who wasn't old enough to be in this industry when they started attending trade shows... (And no, it wasn't Punker.)

damn u know so much here...