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DWRECK
08-20-2010, 03:35 PM
I have a quick question if your given access to a solo site and are told not to use content from the members area as promo material and use the tools in the affiliate area and you do so anyways and get conversions should you be punished for it?

Would you ban an affiliate? Give him a warning? Have him take it down of course but its hard to do when the affiliate is making money from it.

Thoughts.. ideas?

the Shemp
08-20-2010, 03:40 PM
i think you have to decide whether or not he is hurting the conversions for other affiliates...

MP
08-20-2010, 03:40 PM
If they say don't do then we don't do it, its a pain in the ass keeping up with who allows what but ya have to.

Toby
08-20-2010, 03:48 PM
Something isn't making sense here. If he/she wasn't to use member area content then why were they given access to the member area?

Aišo
08-20-2010, 03:59 PM
Something isn't making sense here. If he/she wasn't to use member area content then why were they given access to the member area?

Maybe to see if it would retain members? I do it all the time, but usually just buy a membership, i hate waiting around for responses. I only ask for a user/pass if I intend to use the members content and I make it known that is my intention when I ask.

pf69.com
08-20-2010, 05:02 PM
Something isn't making sense here. If he/she wasn't to use member area content then why were they given access to the member area?

exactly what I was thinking when I read the 1st post...
but there are only 2 reasons one would want access to members area: to grab content or to see how it looks like to decide if they will got with PPS or REVSHARE...

Barefootsies
08-20-2010, 05:04 PM
Something isn't making sense here. If he/she wasn't to use member area content then why were they given access to the member area?

Kind of my thoughts. I guess maybe so you see what you are selling?

Elli
08-20-2010, 05:17 PM
If there is content you're asked not to use, DON'T USE IT. It might be tempting, but that exclusivity might be the reason the site sells in the first place. If you disagree, I would suggest having a conversation with the site owner about your ideas. He/she might be open to limited usages.

PMC
08-20-2010, 05:22 PM
a lot depends if its exclusive content and the paysite is allowed to share that content with the affiliate. A lot of places have restrictions on what is allowed to appear on other sites.

яochard
08-20-2010, 05:50 PM
If your not going to give member's area access to grab content, I'm not interested. Chances are you don't update your galleries enough to keep me swimming in content. I tend to stick to non nude content for the most part, but every now and then something slips through. Then again, I do mostly solo girls.

If you catch an affiliate breaking your promo rules, it's your call. You can keep him or dump him. But if you dump him he might bitch to his friend, and word gets around.

I recently had an issue with a company I promote. I asked for permission to buy similar sounding domain names, and never got an answer, and eventually I just bought and launched blogs on them. Two months later they contacted me and told me I was in violation of their terms. I explained the situation, how I contacted them, no dice. Fine. I pulled all links to that company across my blog entire blog network, removed all of their content, and now push every solo girl except theirs off that domain. I'll never push them again.

A.J. Angel
08-20-2010, 06:15 PM
If they say don't do then we don't do it, its a pain in the ass keeping up with who allows what but ya have to.

Reason why I have learned to ask my affiliate reps to e-mail me the pass with their rules.


Something isn't making sense here. If he/she wasn't to use member area content then why were they given access to the member area?

I was thinking and about to post the same thing.

matuloo
08-20-2010, 06:56 PM
I have a quick question if your given access to a solo site and are told not to use content from the members area as promo material and use the tools in the affiliate area and you do so anyways and get conversions should you be punished for it?

Would you ban an affiliate? Give him a warning? Have him take it down of course but its hard to do when the affiliate is making money from it.

Thoughts.. ideas?

Everyone can do a mistake. If its directly interfering with the business model of the site - for example using hardcore images/ videos from a site where tour and samples are strictly softcore... the content should be taken down and replaced.

Canning the affiliate for using content he was not authorized to use, even thou hes making sales thus proving hes capable of doing so, without trying to work it out with him, is just plain stupid. The content is on numerous forums, torrents, rapidshare etc already and those guys dont give a flying shit. This affiliate is at least bringing in some sales.

I am not saying it wasnt stupid in the first place, if I am told to not use certain content for promotion, I never do it... and I have access to dozens of paysites at any moment.

dgchi
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
I would be disappointed as another affiliate if they wouldn't can the one not following the rules

rules are rules, what makes you think you can ignore them?

Toby
08-20-2010, 07:43 PM
Reason why I have learned to ask my affiliate reps to e-mail me the pass with their rules.
Same here, I always ask about any restrictions. Most don't want you to use anything less than a month old, which I follow even with those that don't specify. IMO member content should be available to members only through at least one billing cycle.

JerseyGTO
08-20-2010, 10:03 PM
If there is content you're asked not to use, DON'T USE IT. .

Thats the way I always do it, I work with what Im given .. Any problems I use Skype or an email and go from there

lazzlo
08-23-2010, 12:05 AM
i say ban dwreck before he starts trouble

Q-Geri
08-23-2010, 07:27 AM
but there are only 2 reasons one would want access to members area: to grab content or to see how it looks like to decide if they will got with PPS or REVSHARE...
?

I take it you are using "one" as a personal pronoun here? Because I have quite a few other reasons why I would want access to a members' area, which I'm sure must apply to some other affiliates.

1. It's good to know what you're selling - always good from my pov.
2. You can't write a genuine review of something you haven't seen.
3. I prefer to sell porn that I like and relate better to potential customers who share my interests. If it can get me off it's much easier for me to sell.
4. The paysite owner has asked me to look at their members' area and evaluate it.

Those are just a few other reasons.

Q-Geri
08-23-2010, 07:45 AM
I have a quick question if your given access to a solo site and are told not to use content from the members area as promo material and use the tools in the affiliate area and you do so anyways and get conversions should you be punished for it?

Would you ban an affiliate? Give him a warning? Have him take it down of course but its hard to do when the affiliate is making money from it.

Thoughts.. ideas?
On the face of it they broke your rules so you have the right to dump them or "punish" them.

However if they are getting you more conversions &/or better ratios through breaking your rules than your other affiliates are achieving by following them then you'd be wise to consider modifying your affiliate program and how you operate your business all round. You might even consider offering this rule-breaker a job.

So it depends. If their conversion rates are not significantly better than the other affiliates then I'd tell him/her to take down the prohibited content and replace it with the approved. I would say most affiliates that use a lot of free-promo are generally just serving the function of getting more surfers to click thru to your tour. And it's generally the tour that closes the deal or not.

Cleo
08-23-2010, 08:09 AM
Oddly I just about never make any sales at all to sites that don't let me use member's content. I naturally obey any restrictions that the site places on using member area content.

On the other side as an affiliate site owner I would take away member area access but wouldn't ban the affiliate for not following the rules for using member area content unless it was some kind of gross misuse like using full length movies or whole sets of content.